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British may not have been committed, but the French and Russians thought they were committed, and that was good enough to get the shooting started. There you have it. July 1914 European diplomacy in a...

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Dave Bender wrote: British may not have been committed, but the French and Russians thought they were committed, and that was good enough to get the shooting started. There you have it. July 1914...

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the idea that Britain caused WWI because the Russians didn't understand British constitutional processes is farcical. Anyway, not only is it clear that Britain wasn't committed on Aug2, the fact that...

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During 1914 there was probably no American citizen who understood European events better then Colonel. House. Which is to be expected as he spent several months each year in Europe, mostly in Britain....

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Who was Sir Grey? What part did he play in it?

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I think he means Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary from 1905 to 1916.

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Dave Bender wrote:During 1914 there was probably no American citizen who understood European events better then Colonel. House. Which is to be expected as he spent several months each year in Europe,...

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Re: A new bit on the entry of Great Britain into WWI

the idea that Britain caused WWI because the Russians didn't understand British constitutional processes is farcical. Anyway, not only is it clear that Britain wasn't committed on Aug2, the fact that...

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I wouldn't go that far. Franco-Russian alliance was in the drivers seat. Russia wanted Constantinople at Ottoman expense. France wanted the Saar and possibly also the Ruhr at German expense.July 1914...

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Dave Bender wrote: I wouldn't go that far. Franco-Russian alliance was in the drivers seat. Russia wanted Constantinople at Ottoman expense. France wanted the Saar and possibly also the Ruhr at German...

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Remember too that Great Britain didn't have a mobilization plan for the Army and whilst Scapa Flow had been chosen as the location for the Grand Fleet's distant blockade no work had been done there in...

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By 4 August 1914 the die was cast. Now the guns would do the talking.If Sir Grey and/or Colonel House want to veto a General European war it needs to happen NLT 20 July 1914. After that date it would...

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Who is Sir Grey? He is either Sir Edward, or Sir Edward Grey, never, ever Sir Grey.

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1.Colonel House letter to President Wilson. ????? Colonel House it is now known was incredibly pro German to the point were he could be said to be a German Agent and he was only a Colonel in the sense...

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Are you kidding. Sir Edward Grey was the principal force for war in the British government. Also of the Triple Entente, from which he feared Russia and France might breakaway. Plan XVII was an...

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Richard Plan XVII was offensive that that it assumed a powerful attack into Alsace-Lorraine to reclaim those provinces, once war was inevitable, which it was once the German dow on France occurred....

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1. famously Grey gave verbal commitments to the French which they thought to be required by the Entente Cordiale when the French left the room Grey was taken to task for being a bit too keen to which...

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Too many folks seem to be keen on putting the blame for the First World War on one side or the other.  There is plenty of blame to spread around, and spread around it should be.  Seems to me that all...

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SeaTurtle Prince wrote:Too many folks seem to be keen on putting the blame for the First World War on one side or the other.  There is plenty of blame to spread around, and spread around it should be....

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